tv The Lead With Jake Tapper CNN April 26, 2017 1:00pm-2:01pm PDT
we have the details but we don't have the tab yet. "the lead" starts right now. breaking news, minutes ago the white house revealing what it is calling the biggest tax cut proposal in history. what's in it for you? and how is uncle sam going to pay for it? an urgent and unprecedented meeting, all 100 u.s. senators invited, attendees bused to a briefing at the white house to discuss north korea. what's going on? plus, the judge won't budge. one legacy of the president's first 100 days losing in federal court. the president responding on the attack again after another immigration order is shot down.
good afternoon, everyone. i'm jake tapper. we begin with the politics lead, day 97 of the trump presidency, a pivotal day for him as commander-in-chief and tax cutter in chief. the white house gave the public details on a tax proposal that the treasury secretary called the biggest tax cut in u.s. history. it would, according to the u.s. administration, reduce the number of tax brackets from seven to three. it would create bigger breaks for child care costs, repeal the estate tax and the alternative minimum tax, and end most itemized deductions. what we do not know, what many republicans still don't know, is the effect it will have on the $19 trillion national debt. this is all happening at the same time that nearly the entire senate is headed to the white house for a special and perhaps unprecedented briefing on north korea. let's start with this major announcement on tax cuts.
cnn's jim acosta live for us at the white house right now. jim, one top republican aid is already saying that this isn't even close to tax reform. what does he mean by that? >> reporter: he means, jake, that they don't have all the details yet and the white house is talking up this tax reform plan as a big boost to middle income families, but the president's proposal could also lead to a large increase in the federal deficit, something aides don't really want to talk about over here, as that flies in the face of mr. trump's vows to get the national debt under control. get ready for trump anomices. >> we're returning power back to the people. >> reporter: president trump is unveiling a tax plan that would be a boon to big business and potentially make the deficit go boom. >> so this is going to be the biggest tax cut and the largest tax reform in the history of our country. and we are committed to seeing this through. >> reporter: the white house tax plan includes what officials are calling tax relief for middle
income families and help with child care costs through the tax code, as well as a massive reduction in the corporate tax rate. the tax relief for middle income families would create three basic tax rates whi. the trump administration would pay for those cuts by eliminating some deductions but not on mortgages or charitable giving, raising the big question raised by fellow republicans, just how is the white house going to pay for any of it? >> again, as i think we've said, we're working on lots of details as to this. we have over 100 people in the treasury that have been working on tax and scoring lots of different scenarios. this will pay for itself with growth. >> reporter: during the campaign then candidate trump promised to eliminate the national debt. >> i will bring our energy companies back. they'll be able to compete. they'll make money. they'll pay off our national debt.
they'll pay off our tremendous budget deficits which are tremendous. >> reporter: and he slammed president obama for failing to bring the debt under control. > we've doubled our national debt to $20 trillion under president obama in less than eight years, $10 trillion have been added. think of it. and we haven't fixed anything. >> reporter: democrats blasted the tax plan was wildly un re unrealist unrealistic. >> the fabric eighter in chief can't talk his way through the next four years. >> reporter: the white house is saying it will make good on one campaign vow, withdrawing from nafta. for the president, that would be a promise fulfilled. >> if they don't agree to a renegotiation, then i will submit under article 2205 of the nafta agreement that america
intends to withdraw from the deal. >> reporter: you're looking at live pictures over here at the white house just outside the eisenhower executive office building. a bus has just pulled up to pick up those senators who were here for a briefing this afternoon on the threat posed by north korea. jake, from what we understand, president trump spent about 14 minutes over there during this briefing from the time he left the west wing and was inside the eob and when he went back insood t white house. once again there are rumblings over another vote in the house to repeal and replace obamacare. the president was asked about that, in fact. i asked him about that during an event earlier this afternoon and his response to whether he would like to see a vote on health care by the end of this week, it was, quote, always. not exactly a ringing endorsement. >> jim a coscosta live at the w house, thank you very much. joining me to discuss this mess of issues, congressman chris kol
colon -- collins, republican from new york. do you support the tax plan? >> i do, jake, it goes back to the plan that we put forward back in january. it is very much in line with the tax plan that we heard from kevin brady at our republican conference. certainly a few differences in the numbers. we were at 20% corporate. the president's at 15. i certainly like 15 more than 20, but we're in the same ballpark and we had a top rate of 35 -- 33, the president's 35. so we're talking from the same page and that's what will ue'll ultimately negotiate. myself and other fiscal conservatives have said we need to be budget neutral on this. we are okay with dynamic scoring, looking at the growth factor which would then take people and put them back to work or potentially getting them off of food stamps, getting them off of medicaid because now they have good jobs, getting the economy rocking and rolling, corporations making more money
and if you make money you do pay taxes. on a dynamic scoring basis, not stat tick scoring, if we can get this revenue neutral, i've been a supporter of the border adjustment tax which clearly was not part of the president's proposal as one of the pay fors which is going to support made in america with a small tariff if you will on goods and services not made in america, so is the beginning, i think jake, of many weeks, if not several months discussion of actually filling in the details, crossing the ts and dotting the is, but clearly the administration and congress in the white house, we are on the same page. there's no two ways about it. >> so tell me what some of your concerns might be just because you know the president watches a lot of cable news, so as if he's watching right now, what are some of the things that republicans in the house might push to change or refine the plan?
>> well, at the top level i'd say we could support it right as. if it's 15% instead of 20, i'm okay with that. if it's 35 instead of 33, i'm okay with that. it's the pay for, jake. we do not have the luxury of driving up our deficit and adding to our debt. the president confirmed that on the campaign trail. i'll go back to the word of dynamic scoring. where does that get us. does it fill the gap or not and if not what is another way to raise revenues. certainly we've talked about the unfair trade practices certainly of mexico and china. whether it's a tariff or a border adjustment tax, those are revenues that encourage made in america, jobs in america, so i think we need to continue the discussion on the revenue side, whether it's a border adjustment tax or whether it's something called called tariffs as a potential revenue raiser, as well as repatriation of all
those moneys that are currently stuck overseas, 10% repatriation of $2.4 trillion. that raises $250 billion that could be used as a revenue source. >> congressman, because there are so many issues going on right now, there's talk of a health care vote possibly by the end of the week. what do you know about that? are the votes there? >> well, we were just whipping the votes on the house floor during this last vote series. the mcar ththur amendment which seemed to be bringing some folks from the freedom caucus over, the heritage action which some people pay attention to have now endorsed the new plan. they were opposed to the other american health care act. they are now supporters. that will certainly move some of our more conservative members into the yes column. i'm part of the tuesday group which are the moderate group. some aspects of this are troublesome to a few of our members, not me, because this
would not impact new york in the least. so at some point you've got to compromise, you got to take a tough vote. the main thing is we got to deliver on this promise the president and all of us made to america when they elected us in the house and senate and put trump into the white house. so i am going to be guardedly optimistic -- >> guardedly optimistic. >> not a deadline this week necessarily although i would certainly support that. we got to get the appropriation bills done this week to fund the government. health care this week would be a great win. if it's next week that's okay as well. >> republican chris collins, thank you very much. a live look at white house grounds where senators are being briefed on the situation in north korea. the meeting expected to wrap up any moment. was there any indication that the united states military might be taking some action soon? we'll talk to one of the lawmakers in the briefing. stay with us.
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on the white house grounds to addresses ka la escalations wit korea. every member of the senate got an invitation to attend. the meeting was called, quote, a risky act. the issue is so alarming, members of the house will hold their own closed door briefing. jim shoe toe is live on capitol hill where the house will meet in less than an hour. these meetings with the entire congressional body are rather unissue. what are lawmakers saying? >> reporter: not only unusual but possibly unnecessary. senator chris murphy said we have secure facilities on the hill. it would have been very easy to get a briefing up here rather than drag the whole body down there. we have a sense of what the white house's intention was with this. we're told by a senior administration official that it was to convey the seriousness of the problem, to give senators a
chance to ask questions and talk about the white house's response so far and their options going forward. so not -- and this has been a question going in -- not a major revelation in there, for instance, building support for an immediate military strike for instance but more a general conversation, in light of the fact of something that both parties agree on, democrat and republican, that the threat is very serious. it's getting more serious and you have to be inbegin to talk what you're going to do to keep japan, south korea and the u.s. safe. >> jim, there's now talk, as you know, of putting north korea back on the united states' terror list. would that make a difference, and why do it now? >> reporter: they were on the terror list and they were removed by the bush administration in 2008 at a time -- sort of a concession to north korea as they were trying to ramp up talks again to freeze
north korea's nuclear program. of course, those nuclear freeze talks haven't gone anywhere. north korea has continued to proceed. so they're talking about firing up that option again. but it is a measure of this, that there really are no simple solutions, and if the white house is thinking in those terms, it's really far short of many of the options that had been discussed, say, a surprise or an immediate military strike. it does not appear that the administration is at that point yet. >> jim, thank you. we're going to talk to one of the senators who just left that white house briefing. what did lawmakers learn about any future possible action against the communist regime. plus, president trump firing harsh words after being reminded that he can't use executive orders to do anything he wants, he actually needs to in many cases go through congress. but is calling out judges the right move? we'll discuss. stay with us. run away! [ grunts ] leave him! leave him!
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who stopped the trump administration from withholding funding for cities that don't enforce federal immigration laws. on twitter president trump echoed the tone of a scathing white house statement that had been issued between the two calling the ruling ridiculous, an overreach, a blow to the rule of law. let's bring in cnn's jessica schneider. the president suggested he's ready to take this fight over sanctuary cities all the way to the supreme court. >> that's right, jake. president trump promising to take that fight to the supreme court repeatedly, both over twitter and at the white house today. it is a familiar refrain for the president, disagree with a ruling, slam the court system, and then pledge to fight all the way to the nation's highest court. >> reporter: president trump is back on the attack, taking aim at a familiar target, the judicial branch. around 6:00 a.m. the president blasted out three tweets, tearing into a california judge's decision to block his executive order that threatened to cut funding to so-called sanctuary cities that limit cooperation with federal
immigration enforcement. first, the ninth circuit rules again the ban and now its hits on sanctuary cities. both ridiculous reelgs. see you in the supreme court. the white house called the ruling an example of an egregious overreach. sean spicer said city officials have the blood of dead americans on their back. >> i'm never surprised by the ninth circuit. as i said, we'll see them in the supreme court. >> reporter: but this latest decision wasn't from the ninth circuit. it came from the federal district court in northern california. any appeal would be heard by the ninth circuit. the decision was determined in part by the president's own words. judge william orric, an obama appointee, writing, if there was any doubt about the scope of the order, the president and the attorney general have erased it with their public comments.
he threatened to defund sanctuary cities. >> certainly that would be a weapon. >> reporter: attorneys for san francisco and santa clara, california brought the suit and said the courts need to keep the executive branch in check. >> what we've learned as a result of this decision was this document att dramatic overreach. >> reporter: president trump has repeatedly railed against federal judges. >> i have a judge who is a hater of donald trump. he's a hater. his name is gonzalo cure yal. >> reporter: and has taken to twitter to criticize the judges who thwarted his travel ban. he aimed this tweet, just cannot believe a judge would put our country in such peril. people pouring in, bad. but the administration isn't backing off its immigration crackdown. the department of homeland security has opened a new office to assist the victims of crimes
committed by undocumented immigran immigrants. >> there are casualties of crimes that should never have taken place because the people who victimize them should never have been here in our country. immigration advocates argue that this office though isn't needed. they cite statistics that show that immigrants here in the country commit crimes at much lower rates than people actually born here. >> jessica, thank you so much. senators just left the white house briefing on north korea at the white house. they're starting to make their way back to capitol hill. we'll get one lawmakers reaction to what they heard from the president's national security team. stay with us. boost. it's about moving forward, not back.
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politics. let's bring in the panel. a.b., let me start with you. this tax cut proposal, there are still rules, and they still need, i think, right, and correct me if i'm wrong, they still need eight democratic senators to vote for this. does it have a chance of becoming law? >> right. we don't want to bore people, but back to the bush tax cuts, republicans lament that they expired after ten years because they used a special process to get them through and they busted the deficit after a certain window of time. if what trump talked about today or treasure secretary tried to get through, they would be up against an incredible sort of procedural hurdle that might not permit them. it's not only what the fiscal conservatives in their own conference will oppose in terms of driving up deficits because where are the pay fors, the pay for gain, they didn't describe that today. also just by the rules and the process they might not be able to without democrats, and where is the word to reach out to them. >> democrats, as you know, are
going to bring up as long as they're talking about taxes, president trump's taxes and his refusal to release his returns. do you think that issue will get more or new traction given that democrats are going to say, we'd like to know how much money president trump is going to make off of this huge tax cut? >> i still think that trump's personal taxes are not an issue that people want to hear about. they want to know about their own tax breaks. if trump gives tax breaks to the top of the scale as opposed to the middle class, that's going to be more potent than about trump's personal taxes. on the other hand, if republicans make the argument that you're going to be able to file your taxes on a postcard or deductions will be more simple or this will put more money in your pocket, i think that can override anything about donald trump's personal taxes. >> ten seats in the senate are
up for re-election in 2018. democrats have been pretty good at keeping together opposing repealing and replacing obamacare and that sort of thing. do you think they'll have a tougher time voting against tax cuts? >> i think the same problems that faced those democrats in the health care fight are going to show up again. what they're dealing with is a situation where they risk losing their base if they fall in line with trump too quickly. so they have to do this balancing act and we saw them really side with the base early on in fights on gorsuch, on the affordable care act, and i think we're likely to see this again. this tax plan is a little bit of wishful thinking on some of these ideas. they're very vague and also a little bit ambitious. they're going to get refined. i think there are definitely some things in here the democrats might be okay with, but there are some problems like getting rid of incentives for homeowners to buy homes the democrats are going to bring up and those changes are going to
need to be made if they have a changes. i don't think you'll see many 2018 swing state democrats running to trump because they could risk losing the most energized portion of their base that they need to prop them up going into the mid-term. >> something we heard from the bannon wing of the white house has to do with the white house considering drafting an executive order to pull out of the free trade agreement with canada and mexico. listen to what republican senator john mccain had to say about his concerns if the u.s. does pull out of nafta. >> devastating impact on my state. >> such as? >> the devastating impact on my state. >> this is of course an issue that president trump talked a lot about as a candidate. do you take it seriously? >> it's interesting, after his election, senators in leadership, senators in states like arizona started pushing back quietly with the administration, please don't go too far and kind of tone this down for a while and they thought they had succeeded in
convincing the white house to do that. now this comes as a surprise where there's been a big ratchet up the rhetoric with canada and dairy. you saw jeff flake, the junior senator from arizona tweet immediately this will toss jobs in my state and raise prices for consumers. i think there's going to be strong pushback from republicans in congress on this because once you set something official in motion it's hard to undo. trump's tactic is to scream and shout and then pull back. it's a negotiating tactic, but there are times when you can't do this and in this case i think this is making republicans very nervous. >> we're at a moment right now where tensions are really high on both borders with canada and mexico. trump started talking about the wall again this week, something he told the mexicans he wouldn't talk about very much, forcing them to pay for the wall. so things are looking very bad for that relationship. even if the president sets this in motion, it doesn't actually cause the united states to
withdraw from nafta, but it's a provocation and one that's contributing to a deterioration of relationships across these borders. long term diplomatically that's not a good thing. >> on the court's decision to block the president's sanctuary city order is sean spicer released a statement, san francisco and other cities are putting the well-being of criminal aliens before safety of our citizens and those city officials who authored these policies have the blood of dead americans on their hands. i'm not sure i've ever seen a statement like that. >> this is a shot for shot remake over the battle of the travel ban. you have something that the courts find to be unconstitutional, the president's words being used against him because the words that you have said are unconstitutional and the white house coming back and itching for this confrontation, making it sound like if anything bad
happens on american soil, in the case of the travel ban, a terrorist attack, a crime committed by someone illegally that it will be on the hands of the judge who made the decision. now we have just like with the travel ban, the we will see you at the supreme court. this is an exact rerun of what we saw with that first issue where trump's actions were stopped. i think that the trump administration frankly -- i think they love to see their policies enact but short of that don't mind these confrontations. >> thank you so much. great to have you here. senators arriving in capitol hill after being briefed by the white house national security team on north korea. you're seeing a live shot, members of the house preparing for the same briefing on the hill so what did shatters learn about the growing tensions with kim jong-un's regime. we'll talk to one lawmaker who was briefed, next.
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we're back with the breaking news in the politics lead. the u.s. senators just adjourned a rare briefing from the white house national security team on the situation in north korea. right now democratic senator chris van holland was at that briefing. senator, thanks so much for joining us. tell us about the meeting. how urgent is the situation? >> jake, it's good to be with you and i don't claomment on an classified briefing. i think it's pretty much what you've been hearing in the press which is that north korea has
developed nuclear weapons. they're obviously in the process of testing different ballistic missiles and it's really important the united states and our allies and china put greater pressure on north korea to get them to stop. our goal was to denuclearize the korean peninsula and we need the chinese to help us. i actually think the administration needs to be putting more pressure on china to get the job done. i mean, after all, you had president trump meeting with president xi down in mar-a-lago. i'm hoping the chinese will begin to do something about it because there are lots of things they can be doing to put pressure on north korea that they're not. >> should americans be bracing for something military to happen between the u.s. and north korea? is that something that you're expecting in any way? >> i would certainly hope not. and i believe that we need to bring all the diplomatic and
economic tools and pressure to bear on the situation in korea. obviously we've got our strong ally, south korea. we have american troops there on the border as a trip wire. but i would caution anybody against any kind of military strike. i do believe that we need to do more to get the chinese to put pressure on the north koreans to stop the testing of nuclear weapons and long-range ballistic missiles. >> are the chinese doing anything? we heard about flights suspended but then resumed between china and north korea. there was something about not importing north korean coal anymore. there have been some rhetorical devices in state-controlled chinese newspapers about north korea going too far, but have the chinese done anything that would seriously make kim jong-un
and his regime reconsider what they're doing? >> nothing at all that's visible to us, jake. even when it comes to coal, they've somewhat limited their coal imports from north korea, but they're still ongoing. the real issue is to get chinese banks to stop being conduits for the north korean government, and they've not done that. i actually think this administration, the trump administration, needs to ratchet up its pressure with respect to chinese banks who are helping to serve the north korean economy. overwhelmingly, as we know, north korea's trade is with china. their economic relationship is with china, and china needs to step up to the plate. >> senator, your colleague, senator ted cruz, republican of texas, just said that the impression he got from the briefing was that the u.s. military is ready to act. was that your impression as
well? >> jake look, again, i'm not going to comment on any specifics of the briefing. it's been the case for as long as i can remember that the united states military is always ready to act and respond to threats. that has been standard operating procedure with respect to north korea and other threats. that's very different, obviously, than any kind of imminent military action. >> secretary of state tillerson, secretary of defense mattis and the director of national intelligence, coates, just released a statement on the briefing which reads, the president's approach ames to pressure north korea into dismantling its nuclear ballistic missile by tightening economic sanctions and pursuing diplomatic measures with our allies. we saw the president leave about 15 minutes later. did the president speak? >> yes, jake, the president did
speak very briefly, some druktry comments, nothing out of the ordinary. with respect to the statement made by secretary tillerson and others about ratcheting up the pressure on china, i'm in the process of exploring bipartisan legislation to beef up our economic sanctions against china and pass something much closer to what was the iran sanctions bill, when we were serious about getting iran to stop its development of nuclear weapons and nuclear material. we had comprehensive, very biting sanctions, and while the administration currently does have the authority to place much more severe sanctions on chinese banks that are doing business with north korea, they are not using those current tools and authority. so i am exploring with my colleagues on a bipartisan basis the idea of putting more pressure on the trump administration to actually use
the economic tools at its disposal. >> before the briefing there were some democrats who worried no actual substance would be addressed in this briefing, it would just be an inconvenient photo op. was that your impression, and was there irritation that every senator was bused over to the white house, or does it not matter given the seriousness of what you discussed? >> look, it is a serious situation. it's serious now. it was serious six months ago. i learned nothing new at this briefing that we're not already familiar with through the newspapers and through the public, but any time people want to get together and talk, that's okay. i'm not quite sure why we went all the way down to the white house. we have an auditorium here in the united states congress. in fact, the same group of briefers is going to be briefing the entire house of representatives right here on capitol hill in the auditorium.
anyway, that's the situation. >> all right, senator chris van hollin, thank you very much. >> thanks, jake. there are democrats in swing states that swung to trump, so what do they think of his first 100 days? we're going to visit michigan, pennsylvania and ohio next. first, a look at this week's episode of the new cnn original series "soundtracks, music that defined history." ♪ i'm in a new york state of mind ♪ >> the music is reflective of the emotions we feel. >> we ain't going anywhere. >> we played for an audience of police, firemen, emergency rescue workers, and they needed a boost. i put a firemen's helmet on the piano just to help me concentrate, because if i didn't have that, i might have just lost it. >> it is kind of an anthem for
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it's the election music, right? we're back with our politics lead. ohio, florida, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. all of them states that went for barack obama twice and then went for donald trump in 2016. almost 100 days into the trump presidency, how are voters in those states feeling now. this is part of our special series. we're talking to voters all over the country and today we travel to purpose states, key battle
grounds that handed president trump the presidency. >> what do you think of his first 100 days? >> he's shaking things up, i like it. >> he's not failing, but he's, like, stuck in a hard spot. >> i think we're all screwed. >> reporter: three swing states, ohio, michigan and pennsylvania and three counties in them flipping by the biggest margin blue to red. what do their voters think now? >> i think he's sending the right messages in a way, but he doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut. >> reporter: tony, third generation farmer and now owner of vineyards in ohio's wine country, a registered democrat who voted for trump. >> is he the perfect guy, no, he's not. but he's -- >> but you voted for him. >> he was the only guy there that showed sign of change. >> reporter: nine ohio counties flipped from obama in 2012 to trump in 2016. none by more than here,
ashtabula county. obama easily beat romney here by nearly 13 points. trump did even better, beating clinton by nearly 19 points. that's a whopping 31.7-point swing. >> i voted out of rebellion of what's happening in washington. >> reporter: a common refrain, voter frustration and fighting between democrats and republicans. >> i'm not willing to bend on that. >> reporter: a new county commissioner here swept in on the trump wave. >> first 100 days in office, how is he doing? >> urban meym -- that is a hard question. >> reporter: he says it is his promise of jobs above all that trump will be judged on. >> we have had a tough time. we lost a lot of manufacturing and stwindustry over the years.
>> reporter: then there's tourist destination and fisherman's paradise, lake county, michigan, solidly democratic, at least it was. >> i'm a truly trump believer. >> i ended up voting for trump. >> reporter: 12 michigan counties flipped blue to red in 2016. lake county by more than any other. in 2012, obama beat romney here by just over five points. in 2016 trump trounced clinton by nearly 23. a massive 28-point swing. >> we're going to cut this tree down and -- >> reporter: 37-year-old shawn had never voted in his life ever until trump's promise to bring back jobs and fix health care. >> i took it as maybe he might try to do like canada, pay a little extra in taxes and get free health care for everybody instead of whoever can afford it. >> reporter: bridget owns, cooks and serves up beers and burgers
at government lake lodge. >> you live upstairs? >> correct. >> so you're here 24/7? >> yes. >> reporter: trump's promise to lower taxes and create jobs got her on board. >> he's very business savvy, and that's what i felt we needed to get into office. >> and what are you feeling now 100 days in? >> i like it. i mean, he's definitely eccentric. i'm not a fan of the twitter and all that kind of stuff, but i don't care. >> reporter: john is the local tree trimmer and the only democrat to survive a contested race in lake county. >> out of 848 votes, i won by 13. >> lucky 13. >> lucky 13. >> reporter: he can't account for why the county went so hard for republicans. >> this is a democratic county. >> it has been for decades. >> what happened? >> i'm not -- that's a tough question really. >> reporter: donna featherstone, a retired long haul truck driver now scoops ice cream. the independent voter has no
health insurance. she she's trump scares her but -- >> if they can get things done, i'm ready to give them a chance. >> reporter: finally, luzerne county, pennsylvania, one of only three in the state to go blue to red. trump easily won the county by more than 19 points, a swing of 24.2 points. ann marie has worked in the family business newsstand for 53 years. she flipped and likes trump's aggressive foreign policy. >> he's not going to take baloney off of anybody. he's going to be -- he's going to kick -- kick it. >> reporter: richard and eileen both volunteered and voted for obama. >> you were a democratic county council member for luzerne county. >> yes. >> and you voted for donald trump. >> yes.
>> and i'm on the executive committee for the democrats but i still went for trump. >> both flipped but watching closely. >> he tried to go with the health care act, was really a disast disaster. >> reporter: at this family bowling we caught up with construction worker andrew coleman. he has a wife, two kids. they have insurance, he doesn't. >> right now i don't have insurance through my employer. i can't afford it the way it's going now, so that's a big thing for me. that was half the reason i voted for him. >> reporter: christine, a republican and mother of two, gives the president so far an 8. >> i think the president is doing well for someone that has not had government experience before. >> reporter: clinton voter and veteran darrel smith says trump's lack of experience still worries him. >> he's ticking off a lot of people. i'm afraid that it's going to end up backfiring on us, is what i'm afraid of.
>> reporter: swing voters still sizing up the new president, but expecting results soon. miguel marquez, cnn, in pennsylvania, michigan and ohio. that's it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. tune in tonight for a special primetime edition of "the lead." my guest will be house minority lead leader, nancy pelosi. i now turn you over to wolf blitzer. thanks for watching. happening now, breaking news, breaking the code. the trump administration unveils the president's plan for drastic tax changes. the centerpiece, sharp reductions for businesses and individuals. what will it mean for the u.s. deficit? full congress briefing in an an unusual move. senators are summoned to the white house for a briefing on north korea as the country threatens nuclear war against the united states. how members are getting their own briefing right now up on capitol hill. what is the president's national security team telling them?